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On Holidays!
I'm about to set off on holidays from the end of this week until the second week of June, and all I can say is I feel like I really need a break too. I have several large commitments outside of work in my life, with the biggest being AMS and helping out on the Xoops.org forums. While I've enjoyed developing the AMS module with Mith, I have not enjoyed a lot of the attitudes I've had to deal with on the Xoops.org forums because of it. I was able to deal with this as I thought I had the support of the Xoops core members, but a negative comment from one of them recently regarding my management skills with AMS has left me very disapointed and somewhat angry. It might not seem like much to the outsider, but when coming from the person it did who I very much respected up until that point, it had a large impact on me. Also the fact that after more than 6 months of AMS being released he chose a open public forum to express this rather than even attempting to contact me about it seemed very unprofessional in my view.
I think this holiday will provide me with some much needed recharge time, but on my return I think I'll be changing a few priorities in my life. Number one will be Xoops, and helping out on the forums there will be taking a very large shunt down the prioirty ladder, and I won't be suprised if I don't offer any support there again. As for AMS I am still undecided, but I think I will continue to offer help and try my best to lead the development of it, but it will be at the very least offered exclusively on this site. I am almost certain I will be changing my development model too, and will no longer be offering the module free of charge to anyone. I've tried to be diplomatic about it in trying to find a balance in my own needs of not going broke with that of what I thought would benefit the Xoops community, but it seems that there is simply no pleasing everyone so I'm no longer going to try. There will be more details to come as I restructure my way forward, but I will be doing my best so as not to leave those who have supported me swinging in the wind.
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Re: On Holidays!
Hi Dominic
Try not to be too disheartened mate. There's many folks out here who are supporting yourself and AMS and the numbers are growing every day.
I am not alone in saying that AMS is the best thing that's happened to Xoops and I hope it will continue to be so.
Enjoy your much deserved break and we look forwards to your return.
Bon Voyage ;-)
Re: On Holidays!
Thanks for the support Martle, I really appreciate it :-) . There is still a lot of water to go under the bridge before I can say exactly where AMS is headed, but I am sure my days of offering help out over at Xoops.org to any great degree is over. The passion to do so just no longer exists inside me. I'm already forming plans for the future, but we'll just have to see how they pan out over the next month or two before I can announce anything. Should be big though :-) !
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Ditto for me.
And Brash, all the help that you've offered is appreciated by many. It is just unfortunate that some people chose to behave in a anal manner. That's the world. I'm posting here to let you know that there are people out there who recognise and thank you for it.
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Thanks Cheeze. I do appreciate you taking the time to post. I by no means want people to kiss my ass and call it icecream, I don't even expect them to agree with what I'm trying to do with AMS. It's just very disheartening when you get several people (some that I respected) making personal attacks and other veiled comments (the kind that make their point without actually clearly stating it, so everyone knows what they mean but if you were to retort they would cry foul) against you, and when a core dev basically calls you incompetent it really knocks your confidence and motivation levels about.
Anyway, I fly out on my holiday tomorrow so I hope I quickly forget the stresses of this week. Thanks again to everyone for offering their support, it reminds me of why I decided to take AMS public in the first place :-) .
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(not sure, what kind of post/message - and who - has upset you brash).
really hope you can reevaluate. most of the people (including me) support you and really appreciate the support you have provided (not only related to ams) to xoops community...
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I'd like to pipe in my concern Brash! I'd really really hate to see you leave! You are one of the top members in my book, and if there is anything I have done that makes youi feel this way, I wish to tell you that it was unintentional and I am sorry.
I know how you feel tho, many times in recent history I have considered just leaving it all behind, all the sh*t that gets poured over a small number of our members, by another small number who seems to enjoy doing only that. But I have also learned that we have to build upon the people we trust and like, and build friendships. Just think of the good people you have met, the friendships made because of that, the support and inspiration you get from them, and why XOOPS became a home for you in the first place. Isn't that something worth fighting for? The fact that you feel hurt by the comments is because you *care*, something that cannot be said about many other people. We just have to get the people who care together and communicate our expectations and ideas, and work together trying to inspire eachother to greeater heights!
Enjoy your vacation, you've earned it. Don't go feelng bitter, but go closing this chapter. And when you come back, see if you thought this chapter ended with a cliffhanger ;-)
Herko
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Have a good holiday, Dom.
I assume that you are rumbling against the comment Herko made about the management of the AMS donation as being "clumsy".
I understand that you can feel targeted negatively by this comment, but do think it is going a little out of proportions. Both Herko and I are very happy with both your support on xoops.org and the effort you have put into reviving the WOX newsletter and we would hate losing you over this.
In hindsight, I do agree with Herko that we could have handled AMS better. At the time it seemed natural to have the donation scheme we settled with, but fact is that it is not one I would recommend to anyone else now - and that is what I read from Herko's comment; it was not wrong, it was not bad, but it was difficult to separate the donation part from the payment part and that is enough for me to encourage others to find alternative ways of generating income to pay for development expenses.
You say that he should have contacted you in private about this, but let me counter that: Have you contacted him before writing this? Have you given him a chance to explain and perhaps rectify the situation?
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:-D
Earth... people comes, people leaves, as real as virtual life !
So, with your needs in mind, play with opensource as passion and live from it... for sur you'll feel a lot more confortable, Here !
...common things. Hummm...
People expressed above... it seems, they need more you than you need them!
;-)
P.S.But who i am? Maybe a blind wise guide...
Re: On Holidays!
hello Dominic,
sorry to read this but it seems that some of us are diapointed these days...
have a nice holiday and keep on good things. Better emotions, thoughts and feelings will sure arrive soon ...
michael [studioC]
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Brash,
You won't see this until you come back, hopefully with a clearer mind and less resentment. I'll only briefly state what I have stated before. I think AMS is an excellent module, one of the best in the Xoops environment and one that hasn't been left half done. As far as I can see, it wouldn't have happened without your efforts. And, as I've said before, I have no problem providing a little financial support for a specific module that I find valuable.
What bothers me most is that this seems another example of the Xoops core members, and I mean more than core developers, coming apart. There are too many people who are leaving Xoops feeling pissed off. Something seems to be wrong with the way personnel are interacting. Someone needs to figure out a way to mediate conflicts. I would hate to see Xoops fall apart.
Apart from encouraging you, Brash, I wish the insiders at Xoops would really put some effort into conflict management. It's true that people come and people go, but Xoops can't affort to drive people away.
Barry